Jr. Teens on Parade
In our second year of doing a junior high overnight, the team is convinced more than ever of the necessity of this simple trip. Hours of dodge ball, sledding, and board games led to some great conversations that just don’t seem to happen on Wednesday nights or Sunday mornings. It seems that getting teens out of their normal routine, and then just being with them and being willing to listen to them, is the key that leads to meaningful conversations. The Jr. Teens did a lot of laughing, a little bit of learning, and whole bunch of talking. Pearce is so blessed to have these thoughtful and considerate folks coming up through the ranks.
Talent on Loan to Romania
Last month, I wrote about the Variety/Talent show the teens held to raise funds for our upcoming missions trip to Romania. At the time photos were not available. It was a wonderful evening. If you missed it, but would still like to contribute to our efforts, you can give through the offering plate during worship services by simply indicating “Teen Missions” on the memo line. Thank you in advance for your prayer and financial support.
Time to Fly
Our Wednesday evening schedule runs from September until the end of April. We do this in order to give our leaders time to rest before the summer programs kick in, and to give the students the freedom to focus on exams, the prom, and spring sports. This year our final Wednesday night will be April 29th. We will be going to SkyZone at 155 Bellwood Drive in Greece. A van will be provided to transport some students to and from Pearce. However, if you are able to drop off and pick up your teen at Skyzone it is appreciated, as van space will be limited. All students must have a signed waiver on file with SkyZone. You can do this by going to www.skyzone.com/rochester . The cost for the evening is $14 plus $2 for the special socks.
Life in the Holy Land
As many of you know by now, I was able to cross “pilgrimage to the Holy Land” off my bucket list this month. What a transforming experience! Honestly, I am still processing the trip; we saw, learned, and experienced so much, it was like drinking water from a fire hose. One thing I have processed is the need to be able to share it all. I believe much of this will come simply in the way that I teach. For example, in this week’s Sunday School classes, I was able to share pictures of the areas where David was hiding from Saul. I was also able to speak about some of the Jewish culture that David and Saul shared. These are insights that I gained directly from the teaching of our guide in Israel.
In addition to helping my teaching, this trip has had an impact on my spiritual and personal life. Spiritually, I have had to come to terms with how Jewish Jesus really was. I have been awakened to the fact that the stories of scripture have a very real place in history and I have been inspired to dig deeper in my understanding of the Old Testament. Personally, the trip was a gift that I was able to share with my mom. Working with teens, I interact frequently with students who are not yet at a place in life where they appreciate the limited time we have with family. I became keenly aware of how special my times with my mother truly are. God did not just say “be nice to your parents,” He said “honor your mother and father.” As I tried to honor my mom on this trip, I came to realize how much it was my honor to be there with her.
Pearce’s Got Talent
Every three years, the teens of Pearce head out internationally for a missions experience. This year, we will be taking our final trip to Romania. After a process of applications, interviews, and monthly training, we believe our team will bond and be ready to serve. A significant part of our team training is fundraising, and one of two marquee events is our Variety Show Dinner. On the first of March, we held our annual show with food by Texas BBQ Joint and entertainment by our teens. It is such a blessing to be able to work with this group. We have 16 students going on the trip, but had over 30 students participate in serving the meal, singing, playing instruments, dancing, and doing skits. It was a wonderful night of ministry. We served over 100 guests and received about $3,100 toward funding our trip. Thank you again to all who attended and who participated.
It’s March, but August is Coming
Yes, I know there is still three feet of snow on the ground, that the Great Lakes are 90% frozen over, and the temperatures have been some of the coldest on record, but I can’t help but think about canoeing! When the winter gets long, I turn my mind toward the lakes and islands of Algonquin Provincial Park. Once again this year, we will be taking teens to Algonquin for our six-day Spiritual Disciplines Canoe Trip: August 2-7. The cost is $425 if you get your application and deposit in by May 1, or $450 after. Applications are available at the bottom of the stairs heading to the teen area.
All You Can Eat – For Christmas
The week of Christmas was a time for relaxing and enjoying friends. One day that week, we gathered our junior high teens for lunch at Pizza Hut and spent a couple of hours laughing and eating. Our junior high students are awesome! They have so much excitement and energy and are always “up” for something. I appreciate the willingness and the leadership of these young folks. They make organizing ministry easy and fun.
Time to Get Away
Each year, our senior teens take a weekend away in the winter to relax and be “off the grid.” Our teens today find themselves over-scheduled and this weekend is seen as a gift to them that allows them to sleep in, play games, sled, eat, and grow a bit spiritually. Increasingly, we see teens that are struggling with trying to balance sports, school, family, and other extracurricular activities. The pressures wear on them the further they get from Sabbath, so we provide this weekend to remind them of the importance of unplugging and disconnecting. Thirty-six hours without a schedule seems daunting at first, but they quickly slow down and realize how much they need the break. This year’s trip to Penn-York Camp was excellent! We had 18 folks who leaned into each other and into Christ, and who really leaned into 20 lbs. of chicken wings and 5 lbs. of shrimp that we fried on Saturday night! What a blessing it is for me to spend time with these incredible young adults.
Flower City Work Camp
This year is shaping up to be our best year of Flower City Work Camp yet! Each year over spring break, teens and adults from all over the Rochester area converge on the city to help repair homes. This year, over 60 churches are involved, including Pearce. There are 760 students registered and over 300 adults. This year, Pearce will have 21 students and 8 adults participating in this local mission. Painting, dry-wall, plumbing, and various other projects will enable us to share the love of Christ with our city. Be praying for the students, the adults, and the homeowners as we approach FCWC. Pray for safety, pray for opportunity and conversation, and pray that our student’s lives will be impacted as well.
The Holy Land
As many of you are aware, a group of from Pearce will be traveling to Israel over February break. I am particularly excited about this trip because it is a “bucket list” item for me, but also because I believe it will add a richness to my teachings about scripture. This semester, in our Sunday Small Groups, we have looked at the parables of Jesus. We are now starting a new series on the Life of David and in April, Laura Cockrell will be giving a 3-week presentation on the land of Israel. While I am thrilled for personal reasons to be heading to the Holy Land, I am also looking forward to how this trip may energize the way I relay God’s Word to our students. Please keep us in prayer as we travel.
Shop ‘Til You Drop
The Romania Mission team for the summer of 2015 has been confirmed. Every three years, the Pearce Student ministries offer an international mission experience and our next trip will be July 17-29. This will likely be our final trip to Romania. Our missions logistics team and I have put a number of these trips together over the years, and have become very efficient in organizing them. We have also developed an application process that has proven to help create teams that will work well together, will stretch one another, and which avoid many of the pitfalls that often occur in mission situations. Students in 10th-12th grade were encouraged to apply, provide written responses to a number of questions, and then participate in an interview process. The teens that worked through this process and which have subsequently been selected are Aurora Coleman, Makayla Coleman, Danielle Garratt, Casey Eich, Aaron Monroe, Sarah Thomson, Sharissa Morton, Noah Spencer, Ethan Woeller, Rachelle Johnson, Nolan Hopkins, Liam Hopkins, and leaders Duane Eich, Diane Johnson, Karen Hopkins, Maurice Hopkin,s and Mike Kuhlkin. On December 17, we had our first team meeting, where we enjoyed dinner together and then ventured out to do some shopping for the upcoming event at Chili Commons. The team will continue to meet once a month for spiritual development, bonding, and trip preparations. Keep us in prayer, and we will keep you informed on fundraising, other needs, and prayer requests.
As I wrote the title, I had to sing it in my best Tevye voice. Count it a blessing that you were not in my office at the time. The Pearce Teens have few traditions. Unfortunately, traditions get a bad rap: like we are unwilling to change, or we have created some kind of golden calf. Sometimes these critiques are valid, but I don’t believe it to be the case with our annual Christmas Progressive Dinner. Each year, we gather the teens together to celebrate what God has been doing in our lives and we share meals with numerous families from the Pearce community. This yearly event offers us an opportunity to break bread together, fellowship with one another, and build on our inter-generational relationships as we visit various homes for appetizers, salad, dinner, and dessert.
Our teens have been working hard at loving our neighbors to the south. This Christmas, we again sponsored a “Christmas Celebration” at Chili Commons. We provided crafts, cookies to decorate, a Christmas pageant with live farm animals, and a visit from Santa—complete with gifts that were actually on the children’s Christmas lists. Last year, we heard from parents who said it was “the first Christmas play” their child had ever been in. We were able to provide gifts to 40 children this year. I wish you could have watched as they opened these presents and screamed with excitement as they received gifts that expressed real thought and love. The Pearce congregation did a great job sponsoring children, purchasing gifts, and helping us pull off this incredible expression of God’s extravagant love for His children.
Making A Difference
I am so proud of the ways our students find to make a difference in their community. This month, the 9th & 10th grade girls made fleece blankets for Project Linus. They made seven blankets during class time, and then finished up more during the week. In total, the girls donated 12 blankets. You can find out more about Project Linus at www.projectlinus.org. It is important that our kids have knowledge about Christ, but as Bob Goff says, “Love Does.” I am thrilled that these young ladies have acted on their faith!
Romania or Bust
The applications have been processed, the interviews have taken place, and the team has been selected. This year’s Romania preparations are underway. Please be praying for us as we begin to gel as a team. We will be spending time together each month in training, planning, fellowship, and prayer. The leadership team is excited about this group and the wonderful things we know God will do in and through these students. Joining me on the team are 15 others: Sarah Thomson, Casey Eich, Ethan Woeller, Sharissa Morton, Noah Spencer, Aurora Coleman, Makayla Coleman, Danielle Garratt, Racheal Johnson, Nolan Hopkins, Liam Hopkins, Maurice Hopkins, Karen Hopkins, Duane Eich, Minister Diane Johnson, and Beth Honan. We will need your help in prayer and fundraising, but we also have a very nice financial start from golf tournaments and other income since our 2012 trip. Thank you for being on the team with us, whether you are on the “traveling team” or not.
Flower City Work Camp Needs You!
Flower City Work Camp is still months away, but we need you to get on board now. FCWC is a ministry that Pearce partners with and it involves the entire church. If you can pray, we need you! Can you cook? There is a place for you, too. How about paint, shingle, or do drywall? We want you as well. FCWC uses teens from grades 7-12 as a labor force and, partnered with adult team leaders, they work on homes in the city of Rochester—more importantly, they are a light for Jesus. Do you have time to give to be a part of this local mission trip over spring break (March 29-April 2, 2015)? Deadlines for adult sign-ups are approaching quickly; contact me ASAP at firstname.lastname@example.org or 594-9488.
Living the Nativity
I am of the belief that if Jesus were born in our day, he would have entered a community similar to Chili Commons, so what better way to celebrate than with a Living Nativity at Chili Commons? This year, we will be hosting a Living Nativity on Sunday afternoon, December 21, for our friends at Chili Commons. There will be crafts, cookie decorating, a nativity play complete with live animals, and even a visit from Santa. Last year’s event was a huge success! Parents raved about how it was the first Christmas pagent their kids had ever been in, and the children beamed with excitement as they received gifts that were actually on their Christmas lists. We invite you to join us in praying for these families, helping out on the 21st, and sponsoring a child by purchasing their requested gift. If you would like to get involved, contact me at email@example.com or 594-9488.
Every boy deserves a Father
On October 4, Pearce Church once again hosted the Iron Sharpens Iron Conference for men. This year, we also hosted a table for Fathers in the Field. If you are not familiar with this ministry, it is designed to help connect a Christian man with a boy in the church or community whose father is absent for one reason or another. Pearce currently sponsors two “Field Buddies” and we have more waiting to be matched up with a “Mentor Father.” FitF provides a monthly lesson that helps boys work through the anger and hurt of life without a father. When they complete each lesson, they receive a gift which will help them in their outdoor pursuits, (rain gear, boots, compass, pocket knife, etc.) and will help to ease the cost for a single mom. In addition to doing a lesson each month, the Field Buddy and Mentor Father also get together to learn a skill such as camping, fishing, hunting, bird watching, or cycling that the young man has an interest in. If you are a single mom who would like to get her son involved, or a man that has the time to invest in the life of a young boy, contact me at firstname.lastname@example.org or at 594-9488.
Bold and Cold
As I mentioned last month, we moved Project Out in the Cold from December to October. The thinking was that perhaps we would avoid the snow – which we did, however we got the rain. Our kids didn’t let the wet weather get them down. We had nearly 30 students come to hear from the Open Door Mission, RAIN (Rochester Area Interfaith Network) and Grace House. They also enjoyed great food, provided by Buzz and Linda Mantegna. The night was a huge success as our students managed to raise over $1,300 for these shelters and were able to get a first-hand glimpse of what being homeless is like.
Chili Commons & Pearce Teens
Throughout the past year, Pearce Teens have been active in finding ways to serve the community at Chili Commons. From a week-long VBS program this summer, to a family Kickball Night in September, to a Halloween Party on October 29, our teens have found creative ways to love and serve our neighbors to the south. It has been a joy to watch our students build relationships with kids in our community who may be a little different. The joy on the faces of these young kids as they received Halloween candy, as they got to play games, and as they were loved for no other reason than being God’s children was priceless. A secondary benefit has been that some of our Chili Commons friends have been coming on Wednesday nights for our teen program. While this is awesome, it was not our goal. We are simply trying to provide our students with an avenue to love outside their comfort zone and to be a presence in our community for Christ. Keep praying for Chili Commons as Thanksgiving Baskets are delivered this month and as we hold our living nativity in December.
Senior’s Sneak Out Again
For the past six years or so, the Pearce teens have carried out a covert tradition. Each fall, at the start of the school year, our seniors sneak out early in the morning and kidnap the incoming freshmen from their warm beds. Then they bring them to my house for a hot breakfast and a time of laughs and bonding. This year, due to the fact that Jackie and I have two ninth graders in our home, we had to get creative. Their friends had been warning them that one of these Saturday mornings they would be kidnapped. Jacob was even watching the pantry for an increase in pancake mix. So to throw them off, this time we kidnapped the freshmen late on a Saturday night. The students were surprised and even nervous, but pizza, wings, and soda quickly put them at ease.
On the surface, this event has the appearance of some type of hazing ritual, but it is not at all. In fact, this event always proves to be a source of stories that get told over and over, and more importantly, it provides the ninth graders with some new relationships with our older students. It gives them some familiar, friendly faces in the halls at school and at Wednesday night youth group. If you see any of our freshmen, ask them about their kidnapping experience—many of them have found they now have Stockholm Syndrome.
Is It That Time of Year Again?
It is hard to believe that summer is truly over and that our Sunday Small Groups (SSG) are back in session. There is a certain rhythm that takes place in student ministry and with the fall, and return to school, comes the return of our small groups on Sunday mornings. September also brings a new group of seventh graders. For these junior teens, this marks their start in teens; and, with it, comes a new schedule and a change in the style of ministry. On Sunday mornings we meet for about 30 minutes as a large group (7-12 grades). During this time, a leader will teach a lesson; then we dismiss the students to their age and gender appropriate small groups. The small groups are led by adults who are given discussion questions and are charged with building community among the teens. Our first week back, we had 83 junior and senior teens and the conversations were fantastic! This semester we will be looking at the Apostle’s Creed, the Nicene Creed, the book of Hosea, and Messianic Prophecies. If you think of it, be praying for this group on Sunday mornings and, if you get a chance, ask the students what they are learning.
Out in the “Not So Cold” Project
Each of the last three Decembers have seen a small village of boxes and tarps form on the front lawn of Pearce. This year, you will see us out a little earlier. The weekend of October 17 is the date for this year’s “Project Out in the Cold.” Out in the Cold is an attempt on behalf of our teens to bring awareness to the plight of Rochester’s homeless, and to raise funds to help local shelters. Each year, we bring in special guests from the Open Door Mission to help us construct our shelters and to speak to the teens about what life is like on the streets. We have also had guest speakers from Rochester Family Mission, and numerous other shelters in the area. The students will be seeking donations from outside of Pearce and the money raised will be divided among the groups joining us that evening. Come and spend some time with us on October 17, or just honk as you pass by.
Time to Get Moving
Family vacations are over, school clothes have been bought, and the buses have come and gone. We are kicking off another school year, and another year with Pearce Teens. Over the past year, we have seen the Lord doing some awesome things. A camaraderie has developed between our junior high and senior high teens. I’m not sure how it’s happened, but I love standing back to watch as students of all ages interact. We have also seen and heard from many new students from outside of Pearce. I can’t wait to continue to provide a safe place for these teens to come and hear the gospel of Christ and be washed in the love of our leaders. This semester’s calendar is below.
Continuing with Chili Commons
Again this year, we are planning events to provide love to our neighbors to the south. Our teens have done so well building this organic ministry. They are getting to know students and families of multiple ages, and they are giving a fantastic witness of Jesus and Pearce. This fall, we will host a kickball night, a Halloween event, and Christmas pageant. Continue to pray for this ministry, and come join us if you’re interested in helping out.
It’s Time to think about Romania
It’s hard for me to believe that it has been two summers since our last mission trip to Romania and Poland. It’s even harder for me to believe that now is the time to be thinking and praying about going to Romania next summer, from July 17-29. The cost will be in the neighborhood of $2,500; but we’ll work together on fundraising. Our rotation is to do trips every three years, so that anyone who would like to go will have the opportunity. However, with limited spots available, the leadership team will have to give preference to those in their junior and senior year. Applications are available this week on the Pearce website and at the Teen info center.
TNT with a delayed fuse
It took three tries, but we finally got TNT off the ground. Tuesdays this summer have been especially wet, and for a few weeks it seemed we would never get together. But it finally happened July 15, when 63 of us headed to Seabreeze for a fantastic evening of rides, fried food, and laughs. Every year, this is one of our favorite events and, despite the morning rain and cooler temperatures, this year was no different. Seabreeze is a fantastic little hometown park, and it has something for all ages. This year, students from 7th-12th grade, and even a few parents, spent the evening sliding down the water slides, screaming on the Jack Rabbit, and bumping into each other on the go-carts.
It’s not too late to join us for TNT. We have a few more left this summer. On August 12, we will be at the Bentley’s for a pool party; August 19, we will be at SkyZone (release form required: http://www.skyzone.com/rochester/online-waiver ); and August 26 we will close out the summer Go-Carting at the Club House Fun Center. If you want to join us for any of these, contact me.
Annually, Pearce offers a weeklong VBS. The age for this week ranges from preschoolers to 6th grade, however this week is a true picture of intergenerational ministry. Grandparents, moms and dads, as well as students, volunteer their time and energy to make this ministry a huge success. I am blown away every year by the number of volunteers that come from the Pearce Student Ministry. Our teens love to minister to the younger students at Pearce and have become an integral part of VBS.
Our vision at Pearce, and specifically Student Ministries, is to create opportunities for intergenerational ministry. Recent studies show that students who minister side-by-side with adults tend to hold onto their faith through the difficult college years better than those who have not had this opportunity. VBS provides an excellent platform for intergenerational ministry, as teens co-lead with Pearce adults. Stay tuned, as we look for more of these types of opportunities.
Chili Commons VBS
Throughout the last year, students at Pearce have been actively seeking ministry opportunities at Chili Commons. This pursuit was born from a desire to be “doing” ministry in our own neighborhood. Every three years, we take an international mission trip and we are involved in numerous ministries in the city of Rochester, but we wanted to impact the people we live closest to. The last week of July was the capstone for a year of ministry at Chili Commons (Meadowbrook). For three nights, our teens spent two hours leading workshops in Karate, Dance, Sports, Crafts, and Drama. They also played games, shared snacks, and gave a Bible lesson. Once again, the weather was not ideal, but the kids that came were blessed by the investment our students made.
On many occasions this year, as we ministered at Chili Commons, I heard students make comments like, “this feels like being in Romania.” It amazes me how, just by leaving the walls of Pearce, we can gain the sense of being on a mission trip. Our students are beginning to get the concept that “missions” happens every day, wherever you are. The teens are really working to live a missional lifestyle, and their success is seen on the faces of the children they invest in.
School is just around the corner
With the turn of the calendar to August, it’s time to begin thinking about the startup of school and the return of Sunday morning and Wednesday evening programs. In the interest of full disclosure, I am not ready. This summer has been more full than any other I have experienced, and I have only been able to give fleeting thought to the fall. However, with August, that will change. A calendar for the year will be posted here in September, so that you can make plans for the year. There will also be some changes in our curriculum on Sunday mornings. With regard to Wednesday night programing, I plan to move back up to the senior high team. We have the junior high team running like a well-oiled machine, and I am looking forward to transitioning with this year’s new freshmen class.
The End of a Chapter, and The Start of a New One
Each year at Pearce we celebrate the graduation of our High School Seniors and welcome the first graders by giving each student a new bible. This year we added a new tradition. Our sixth graders will be moving up to the junior high ministry and in recent years it has become apparent that our seventh graders need “more age appropriate” bibles. Starting this year our first graders, sixth graders and senior all received new bibles. Once the sixth graders reach their senior year, we will replace “bibles” with a different gift.
The Sunday service included a focus on the need for scripture as a foundation in our lives. This was accomplished through wonderful music, the reading of God’s word, and a moving ceremony in which the students received their new bibles. I was incredibly touched by the way Pearce expressed love to these students and the high value placed on being in God’s word. Congratulations to all of our first graders, sixth graders, and seniors. May God’s love, truth, blessing always be on you.
Swinging with a Mission
A number of years ago the Men’s Ministry at Pearce decided it no longer could host the annual golf tournament. It fell in my lap and I agreed to do it, but only if we could change the tournament and re-purpose it. We decided to place the tournament under the auspices of the teen missions. Our goal has been to provide a great day of golf and fellowship, while also raising funds to help offset the costs of our mission trips. The 2014 tournament was our most successful to date. Wonderful weather, an increase in participants, increased underwriting, and excellent food all made for a fantastic experience. Golfers ranging in age from 11 to 80 came out to support this great cause, and helped us raise about $3500. The Pearce teens travel internationally every three years for missions. By hosting this tournament, even on the years in between we have been able to place over $9,000 in our account before we have even begun to organize the trip. Next year’s trip to Romania will cost approximately $48,000. This fundraising will go a long way to making the trip a possibility. Thank you to all the golfers and businesses that supported us. Special thanks to the golf committee who did all the work behind the scenes: Karen Hopkins, Maurice Hopkins, Jordan Eich and Ron Sadler.
Up For Adoption
As many of you know about six years ago our family joined the Tassone family in adopting a village in Senegal, Africa. Four of the last six years, I have been blessed to be able to travel to Senegal and visit my family there. Each time we go, I am struck with the fact that we “adopted” them, and yet we always feel like we were the ones truly adopted. While we are there to provide finances, diplomatic assistance and to demonstrate the love of our Savior, Jesus Christ, I always feel like I have been the one who has been helped. Our family in the village is so kind, generous and giving. They literally have almost nothing, and yet they are willing to give whatever they can. This year they fed us, they took my son Jacob in as one of their own, and they welcomed us into their homes and hearts. We brought small gifts for them, and they returned the favor by sewing Jacob and new outfit, feeding us from their small food supply, and Emily’s namesake even sent home one of her own outfits to Emily as a gift. As always, we had a wonderful experience and had opportunities to share the gospel, but I think what we left with is as valuable. One evening, Jake and I were talking, and he said “dad, I am amazed at home generous these people are. They live in dirt huts, have no toys and a single set of clothes, and yet they have so much joy.” I was pierced by how true this statement was, and how we in the states have lost sight of what really matters. Jake went on to say “I have every toy, game, electronic gadget you could imagine, and yet it’s never enough.” Pretty profound for a 13 year old. How much in enough? To our family in Ndidor “enough” is measured in joy and not in material. Please pray for Ndidor; the rainy season is just getting started and, with it the growing season as well as the extreme desert heat. They will receive about 3 inches of rain this summer while enduring temperatures between 120-130F. In these conditions they will need to grow enough millet and peanuts to last the entire year. Pray too, that the bondage of animism and Islam will be loosened and that they will see the love and grace of Jesus Christ.
Stay in the Loop
Every year, we see a new group of 7th graders come into the Pearce Teens, along with numerous folks from outside of Pearce. And each year I am asked, “how do I find out about what’s going on?” For your convenience we have devised a number of ways to disseminate information. First, if you are on Facebook, search for the Pearce Parents page, and have your child look for the Pearce Teen page. We post information, relevant articles and occasional pictures to these pages weekly. Second, continue to follow this blog. “Mike’s Musings” is posted every month on the Pearce Church web page at pearcehurch.org and often contains photos and updates regarding various events. You may also contact me at Pearce Church by calling 585-594-9488 or through email at email@example.com. Finally, take a moment to sign up for our texting service. Simply text the word “pearceteens” to 68398. We send out reminders and cancelations through this service. In addition we use occasional letters, postcards, parent information meetings, the Pearce Facebook Page, and the Pearce NEUs to keep you up to date with the Teen program here at Pearce. Our goal is to keep everyone informed – we would hate for anyone to miss out on the fun because they didn’t know about something.